I saw this post last night and have tried hard to resist commenting..... but couldn't.
I feel that, as a Director of CC Moore, the company that some are clearly implying on this thread don't do as they say, I should post to clarify a few points and put one or two people straight - as they either don't understand or are trying to cause mischief.
1: Odyssey XXX is a bait that was first produced in 2006. It contains 10% Green Lipped Mussel Extract (100g per 1kg of dry mix) and has always done so. EVERY batch of this bait that has ever been made has always contained 100g Green Lipped Mussel Extract (usually defatted but occasionally Full Fat in some test batches) per 1kg of dry mix and will always do so. This product is made by CC Moore staff at the CC Moore bait centre so we have total control over this.
Anyone who doubts this or would like to see this can email me personally at
ian@ccmoore.net and can come to our bait centre to watch a batch of 500kg being made. I will arrange a time to personally be with you when this happens. You will also be welcome to buy some of the finished rolled bait that we produce from that batch on that day. (You will have to wait for the rolling/boiling process to be completed)
One post on this thread stated something along the lines of the 10% inclusion of GLM in Odyssey XXX as possibly being 'too good to be true'; sadly, the case is that the inclusion level of GLME (GSMP, GLM or whatever you want to call it (it's the same!)) in Odyssey XXX is not too good to be true, it's actually too good to be accepted by others who have an axe to grind; either as they are linked to another company in some way, use other companies' products or simply like to be controversial on forums.
The offer your colleague was referring to (£7.00/kg) for Odyssey XXX was a short-term special offer which was running through March and part of April and was extremely popular. Many of the people who bought this offer are now on the bank using it and are reporting catch results back to us on a daily basis.
Again, if anyone wants to take this further and has any EVIDENCE (rather than libellous comments) to suggest that we do not include 10% (100g/kg) GLM (GLME,GSMP etc) in Odyssey XXX then please email me personally at
ian@ccmoore.net so that we can arrange to meet and resolve this issue professionally, with our legal advisors involved.
At CC Moore & Co Ltd we buy Green Lipped Mussel Extract in very large quantities and therefore buy it at a very competetive price. Prior to the creation of Odyssey XXX we were paying more than twice what we are currently paying for defatted and full fat GLM which we have supplied to some individuals in the past. So far in 2013 we have used around 2.9 tonnes (2900kg) of GLM (a mix of Defatted and Full Fat) and have another 1000kg due to arrive from New Zealand on 17th May - again the invite is there if anyone wants to see this arrive. You may notice on our facebook page some time ago that we actaully posted a photo of a 1000kg pallet of GLM after it had just arrived from New Zealand.
One of the main reasons we produced this incredibly effective bait with 10% GLM inclusion was that we knew that the GLM inclusion is so expensive that other companies would be far less likely to copy it - as it seen throughout the industry with so many effective new tackle and bait products.
The fact we buy so much enables us to buy it at a lower price and therefore include it at 10% without it costing us what it would if we were buying in 25, 50, 100 or even 250kg batches. I'm sure everyone understands the economies of scale.
I assume that most other companies don't buy 1000kg at a time so cannot get the same cost price and therefore don't want to believe that we are able to do this.
2: The Defatted/Full Fat debate is something that often surfaces but I can assure you that we will not be changing what we do in our own products as we know that the Defatted material is the most effective in terms of attraction. The only difference between the two products we buy is the oil/fat level following extraction and, in water, this oil is not easily dispersed or ingested and so is only really of similar value to other fish oils (Salmon etc) for its oil-related nutrients (and as a concentrated energy source) - but this is only once eaten by fish and makes a tiny difference to the finished profile of a bait - even if included at 10%. If you wish to create the same effect (and I'm not sure why you would as oil is hugely overrated in Carp baits for 8 months of the year), you would be far wiser to use the defatted GLM (with greater water solubility and cold-water digestbility) and then add Salmon Oil to your bait - even if just for the warmer months of the year.
3: As a major importer of GLM (GLME, GSMP etc) we supply it to literally hundreds of bait companies of all sizes around the UK and Europe. Ironically, a couple of the companies who are often notorious for criticising our Odyssey XXX and GLM Extratc to their own customers are actually buying GLM from us for their own baits - funny eh? ...sadly an industry trait where people love to fabricate negative points about other people's products rather than focus on the shortcomings of their own!!
4: Odyssey XXX is without doubt one of the most successful big fish boilies that has ever been produced in the UK. When you compare how many kilos have been produced and used against a few other well known products on the market over the last few years, it has caught a disproportionate number of the Uk and Europe's biggest fish (many of the time and time again). This is not when being used by full time anglers with unlimited amounts of bait and time but mainly by customers and anglers to work and pay for their bait. Just last week, Matt Jackson caught a brace of
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